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On May 6, 7:03 am, backspace  wrote: > On May 4, 5:40 pm, backspace  wrote: > > > On May 4, 11:24 am, John Wilkins  wrote: > > > > Interestingly, most of the time when Darwin uses the term "chance" he > > > means the chance of surviving under selection. > > Are you using selection in pattern or design sense? Becausehttp://scratchpad.wikia.com/wiki/JohnBurroughsinterpreteddarwin in > > the pattern sense with NS.

> Lets take a bag of small and large beans, shaking them out unto the > table. I now "select" the small beans from the > random assembly of beans. Selection is used in the design sense to > filter out objects in a random pattern event. Thus one would interpret > the chance of surviving as the chance that a small bean gets selected > by a bean-picker - design sense.

Now in order to automate the process I build a filter with the correct size holes to filter out the small beans. I throw in the beans shake the holder and out pops the small beans "filtered" by the filter. The confusion comes in where we are told: Natural selection filters the random variations in nature and the user of this sentence (which is just a tool) then can't figure out what he is trying to convey: patterns or designs. Further examples of this is DAwkins usage of cumulative selection in his http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weasel_program

"...They clarify that the process that drives evolutionary systems — random variation combined with non-random cumulative selection — is different from pure chance....."

cumulative, redemptive, selective, rabbitive , ninjative selection ...... the words themselves won't help: You must figure whether the process that a common ancestor turning into a monkey who then then said Mommy why are teeth They clarify that the process that drives evolutionary systems — random variation combined with non-random cumulative selection — is different from pure chance.