User:JustinHoskie

=Family Guy Disscusions= This is a place where you can speak your minds about Family Guy hot-topics on Wikipedia (Brian a racist, Meg's real father, ect.) I will put up places for the two arguments, Please enjoy. --BrianGriffin-FG 18:01, 9 June 2007 (UTC)


 * BGFG: These topics may be hotter for you than for anyone else, but it will be interesting to see if you can maintain NPOV in these discussions. I've added mu options to your debate questions because I don't think they necessarily have Boolean answers. / edgarde 18:52, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Meg's biological father
Ok, this is the disscusion that got me in hot water (see Attacks and inappropriate language). I said "F**CK YOU!!! Dian?" which was ment to be taken a quote-joke (that's is what Peter said in the movie) but I have a mean sence of humor whitch I mostly dirrectly at myselve. This is an open disscution with which anyone can take part in. Enjoy.--BrianGriffin-FG

Stan Thompson is the Father
Okay this is the side I'm on. This is what I wrote on Talk:Family Guy (I edited some of it for this disscusion). I don't see a problem with [the idea of Peter not being the father]. I think that any cutaways that happen in Family Guy should be taken serously, unless it's somthing really really really really outragious like the "Great Space Coaster" joke in "I Take Thea Quagmire". An example of this is in Da Boom when Peter tells a guy in a chicken costume that he doesn't take coupons from chickens after "what happen last time" an it goes into a flashback to Peter getting into a fight with a giant chicken over an expired coupon. Many fans probably dismissed that as a throw-away gag, I did and I was 8 or 9 when I saw it, but in Blind Ambition, the giant chicken attacks Peter out of nowhere and they have yet another huge fight in the present insted of in a flash back. AND he and Peter are fighting in Family Guy Video Game!, AND he comes back and fights Peter in No Chris Left Behind [and he is seen in "Meet the Quagmires]. If Chris has an evil monkey in his closet (that to was only going to be a throw-away gag) and Peter keeps getting into a fight with a giant chicken, I think that Meg might not [being] Peter's daughter [is in the relm of reality]. By the way, when [Sherwelthlangley says] "there was a cutaway scene in one of the early episodes where it flashes back to the day of Meg's birth when Peter shows disappointment at the doctor's remark: 'It's a girl!'", Lois could have told Peter that she was pregnant and Peter could have thought it was his. AND Lois might have told Peter years after Meg was born that Meg wasn't his daughter and that it happened so long ago that he diddn't care. Chris "finds out" in Screwed the Pouch while Meg is happily listening to her walkmen, not listening, and, if it wasn't just one of his idiotic comments, Chris tells Meg "My dad's smarter than your dad (Stan Thompson)!" Meg says "We have the same dad morron" meaning that she still doesn't know about Stan Thompson. As Stewie would say, "Well, that's my arguement, where's your's?"--BrianGriffin-FG 18:26, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Family Guy should not be taken seriously
It's a gag from two seasons ago; the other shoe would have dropped by now. Obsessions notwithstanding, nothing hints of a planned multi-year story arc that will resolve this gag against the show's continuity, or contradict the status quo that Peter Griffin is Meg's father.

If the writers choose to revive Stan Thompson's paternity as a story element, then it changes, but expressing a conviction this will happen is like expressing a conviction that Brian will wear a hat in the next episode. / edgarde 18:52, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Brian's Racism
This is an open disscution with which anyone can take part in. Enjoy.--BrianGriffin-FG

Racist
Demonstrated in at least two episodes (I've not seen every) so this is established. The humor here is that Brian is embarrassed by his racism. / edgarde 18:52, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Not a Racist
Okay this is the side I'm on. This is what I wrote on Talk:Brian Griffin. There is no way in hell that he is a racist. When he was a pup, his dad acted racist around him, and his subconcise (sorry about the spelling) thought that that's how he was suposed to act. When he grew-up, he learned not to do that, but it's still in his subconsice and it leaks out every once in a while. The same thing happens to Lois with her Pewterschmidt up-bringing. In "The Perfect Castaway", Lois says to the weeping Chris at Peter's funeral, "I know honey, I'm sad to, but come-down, you're making a scean, all our friends are here," (sounds like somthing her dad would say, huh) and in "Jungle Love", after Chris says "This is my wife Loca. We're mairred", Lois responds by saying, "Well, maybe here, but not in America where God pays atention." I belive the only differince is that Brian is 100% aware of his problem and is trying despretly to change it, while Lois has no clue of her little problem (although she has comsideritly more conroil over it). As Stewie would say, "Well, that was my arguement, where's your's."--BrianGriffin-FG 18:59, 9 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Racism that contradicts one's stated principals or one's image of oneself is still rascism. Blaming others (family, upbringing in general, bad experiences with people of other ethnicities, whatever) for one's racism does not make one not a racist. Actions speak louder than words. And so forth.


 * Example:
 * My grandfather used to make racist remarks. My mother would defend him after the fact on the grounds he was someone who didn't know that was impolite. My father (his son, and a lifelong Republican who used the word "colored" until at least 1980) wouldn't go along with that, and politely gave his dad examples from his own experience that contradicted what his father was saying about African-americans.


 * My father grew up in an environment that (by the above excuse for Brian Griffin) would make him a racist, but he wasn't. I don't think anyone ever taught him explictly not to be one &mdash; his Korean War service in the Navy might have been an influence &mdash; and racist beliefs would have fit in fine with his adult peers. He wasn't by any means a man ruled by rationality. But he never made a comment that I would now consider racist, and although he was a quiet type not prone to polemics, he wouldn't let rascism go uncontradicted.


 * Brian is the converse: a cultural progressive who is racist.


 * My mom would have defended Brian Griffin with an argument similar to the above. / edgarde 18:52, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Re: Family Guy shouldn't be taken seriously
Thank you Edgarde for giving me a new topic for depate on my talk page. I really appriciate it a whole lot. Yours Truly, BrianGriffin-FG 18:11, 13 June 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm not seeing much action in your debate topics. Would you consider moving these debates to a sub-page of WT:FAMILYGUY? As long as it's pertinent to editing articles, it's worth discussion within the WikiProject. Can't be used as a forum for general FG chat, but I think the 3 questions you pose here are at least loosely pertinent.


 * We're trying (me and mostly) to get people to make use of WikiProject Family Guy. Most of the editors on Family Guy articles are newbies and drive-by's who don't even read talk pages, so the community will be fairly small. But we're hoping to get something organized, and establish a few precedents for consistency between articles. / edgarde 18:29, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

=Cartoon Corner Reviews= This is a section for reviews of a newsletter I do at school with reviews of animated shows. This is the closest thing I have to an E-mail address, so I'm using it.

This is NOT for other Wikipedians, unless they have acsess to my newsleter. If you read the letter, and would like to say somthing, don't use my name, use "Brian" or "BG" or even "Frank" if you want, just don't use my acual name. Thank you.--BrianGriffin-FG

=The Family Guy Helpers= A Family Guy Helper is a person who is a fan of Family Guy and whoes sole-mission is to help fix any FG articles that have major mistakes and help another Family Guy Helper, if they can, who has created a new article, FG-related or not, if that other member needs help. There are no regular meetings (daily, weekly, monthly, yearly, ect.). I, BrianGriffin-FG, am the founder and current president of The Family Guy Helpers. If you have any questions, please feel free to ask.--BrianGriffin-FG 23:23, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

The Family Guy Helpers are currently  inactive.--BrianGriffin-FG

Polices
The rules every Family Guy Helper should follow are:
 * 1. Any member can call a meeting for anouncments, celebrations, nominations, ect.
 * 2. If you call a meeting, start it one to two weeks befor ending it.
 * 3. If another Family Guy Helper asks you for help, help them if you can.
 * 4. Every year, we will hold elections for new positions. An offical can run for three consecutive years.
 * 5. DON'T USE A LOT OF SWEARING! The occasinal swear is no big deal, but if you swear a lot, you will be KICKED OUT.
 * 6. We will be watching the new episodes (both the FOX and [adult swim] versions) and help edit the episode's artical the following day (it might help to have a TiVo or a TiVo knock-off to take good notes, but you don't really need it).
 * 7. We will sometimes go to the Family Guy Wikia to help them.
 * 8. We will also go to Wikiquote to help with there Family Guy articals.
 * 9. You can say the areas (TV shows [by title, e.g.American Dad!], Wiki editing, books, ect.) that you think you are confortable in, for anyone needing help.
 * 10. YOU MUST BE A FAN OF FAMILY GUY! This goes without saying, but it should be said.
 * 11. You will be given a test to test your knowlege of Family Guy.
 * 12. You will also become a member of the WikiProject Family Guy and a member of the Family Guy Wikia.

Current Helpers
A list of current Family Guy Helpers are:
 * BrianGriffin-FG
 * Status: Founder and Current President (7/3/07-???)
 * Area of Expertes: Family Guy, Harry Potter, Lemony Snicket books, Aqua Teen Hungerforce


 * Cf38
 * Status: Quahohian
 * Area of Expertes: Family Guy
 * Member Since: 12/02/07 1:20 PM

Aplicants
If you want to be a member, this is were you contact me.--BrianGriffin-FG


 * Cf38 (talk) 10:53, 28 November 2007 (UTC) I'd like to, I'm obsessed with Family Guy.....Giggity...


 * I might be able to help out periodically on the FG Wiki. - DAWUSS

Events
New Season Where:On FOX When: On Sundays at 9:00 P.M. This Week: Rerun due to WGA Srtike

New [adult swim] Season Where: Catoon Network's [adult swim] Block When: Sundays at 11:00 P.M. This Week: Rerun due to WGA Srtike

Links
Click Here for Project Family Guy.

Click Here for the Family Guy quote page on WikiQuote.

Click Here for the FamGuyWikia.

Quiz
Here's a quick quiz, just to see if you're a mega-fan (like me!) or just a huge fan.

1. What is Peter's middle name? A) Löwenbräu B) Michael C) Jay

2. What is Lois' parents' names? A) Francis and Thelma B) Carter and Barbra C) Stan and Francean D) Homer and Marge

3. What is Death's first apperance? A) Death has a Shadow B) Death is a Bitch C) Meet the Quagmires

4. Excluding his first apperance, who is Death played by? A) Norm McDonald B) Adam Corolla C) Seth MacFarlane D) Alex Borstein

5. In Meet the Quagmires, why does Tom Cruise run in all his movies? A) To run away from his homosexual feelings B) To escape from the evil Lord Zeno C) He likes to run

6. What is the name of Drew Barrymore's reacuring character (Brian's girlfriend)? A) Jillian B) Jewlery C) Heather

7. Finish the following lyrics from You've Got a Lot to See from Brian Wallows and Peter Swallows: "The Regan years|Have layed the fram|For movie stars to play the White House game!|We're not to far from voting..." A) Feildman/Haim B) Fay/Phoiler C) Drake/Josh

8. What health-impairing substances has Brian been implied/shown doing? A) Coke B) Tobaco (in the form of cigaretts) C) Alcahol D) Pot E) All of the above

9. What is Stewie's "sperm-brother's" name? A) Bart B) Bertrum C) Billy

QUOTE QUESTION In One If By Clam, Two If By Sea, what did Nigel Pichly say to Lois while in the courtroom? A) "Can I touch your bum once?" B) "Can I make love to you?"

The next question is an extended response one. Just 2-3 sentences and an explanation in it. You can choise this one! The choises are:

1) Why are you a fan of Family Guy?

2) What is your opinion on Stewie's sexuality?

3) Do you believe that Lois abuses drugs?

4) What is your opinion on Lois' sexuallity?

Remeber, this just tells me what level of a fan you are, it doesn't have that much to do with you getting in. And if you don't want to answer something, don't answer it! --BrianGriffin-FG

Critizism and Rejections
No thanks, but if you really wanna improve I suggest you join the WikiProject, it's very deserted, since Family Guy is so famous, more people are needed to join. Click here, it's up to you, I'm inviting you to join, and please try to invite some of your friends, if you're interested in joining, this project needs a lot of attention. TheBlazikenMaster 15:46, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Instead of founding a new organization, would you consider contributing to WikiProject Family Guy, which already has at least 5 active members? No point in duplicating efforts. / edgarde 00:34, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
 * All the helpers go to the project? Sounds great. TheBlazikenMaster 17:00, 6 July 2007 (UTC)


 * [A Events Section] would be pretty helpful in WikiProject Family Guy. If I made an Events section there, could you help keep it up to date?
 * Still not interested in forking the WikiProject. / edgarde 23:18, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Is their any member besides you.--King Nitro 01:11, 21 September 2007 (UTC)NITRO

'''Thank you edgarde, I deleated thae add policy. You sure you don't want to be a member? --BrianGriffin-FG 17:25, 3 December 2007 (UTC)'''


 * Thanks, Brian. I have my hands full with other activities, including WP:FG, so I have to decline, but I appreciate the invitation. / edg ☺ ☭ 17:41, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Meh -- Some Q's.
Will you please specify an e-mail address so I can ask you what is Seth MacFarlane's e-mail address is? Because I got a some feedback for her. Hey if you answer me, I'll give "you" a free supply of martini and "your" Toyota Prius tune-up! (uhh...) --  Boogster  Go!  18:08, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

(Seth MacFarlane's a guy....) Cf38 (talk) 10:47, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

News
Good news, you're in! The you got 8.75 on the multiple choise part of the quiz! The only one that wasn't what I was looking for was number 8, and that was in a weird zone, because it wasn't right, but it wasn't wrong. The answer I was looking for was E) All of the above, because it has been implied a few times that he has done pot, but you were right, and you aced the quiz. And you meet Seth MacFarlane, so that's a really good strike for you!

I got a few more questions for ya' though:

1) What is your stand on the bulleted sections (culturel refrences, trivia, notes, ect.)? Do you want to keep them, or do you want them in a diffrent format? I'm not sure about the fact that they are bulleted, I'll spend some time organzing them, and I think they are all useful, except Trivia is discouriged on Wiki

2) Do you have a WikiQuote page and a FamGuyWiki page? I need to know this.

''I don't but I could create one. The wikia Page I use is this ''

3) Do you have a DVR (anything like TiVo really)? I live in britain, and I have something called sky+, which has 999 chanels and is fucking awesome!

4) What do you consider yourself an expert in (TV shows, books, movies, editing, ect)? everything to do with family guy, it is my religion

Well, that's it. Welcome to the helpers. --BrianGriffin-FG 18:19, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

re:news (2)
Yes I am. I'm willing to participate in them all. Cf38 19:01, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

re:YOU ARE IN!
AWESOME:D Cf38 20:00, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

re: questions
No. But I watch the new episodes on the internet so there isn't much of a gap. Cf38 (talk) 19:23, 9 December 2007 (UTC)