Talk:Timeline(FS)

Slimmyslimcat: Let's just start with Kaj and his story Slimmyslimcat: Ignore Asa for a while Shadizilla: Mkay :> Slimmyslimcat: Kaj is an assassin. Slimmyslimcat: A gun-for-hire :< Shadizilla: He starts cause he needs money to pay for his mom's medical bills Slimmyslimcat: :D +10pts for immediately answering the "why" Slimmyslimcat: :D <3 Slimmyslimcat: What's wrong with his mom? Slimmyslimcat: Cancer? Shadizilla: Yeah Shadizilla: Lets say like Shadizilla: naw not lung :| Shadizilla: Hnn Slimmyslimcat: BREAST CANCER. Shadizilla: SURE Slimmyslimcat: XD Slimmyslimcat: I was kidding Slimmyslimcat: UMMM Slimmyslimcat: Like Slimmyslimcat: Leukemia? :D Shadizilla: That could work :> Shadizilla: I know someone who has it Slimmyslimcat: D: awww Slimmyslimcat: ...D: that's rly sad Shadizilla: He's okay, they found it real early Slimmyslimcat: D: mkay, good <3 Shadizilla: Mkay Shadizilla: so then she dies Slimmyslimcat: Tonight: Research leukemia Shadizilla: Mkay :> Slimmyslimcat: Alright, well, wait :< Notyet Slimmyslimcat: When does he start being a gunforhire? Shadizilla: Well, he probably chills with the other assassins a while before that ( After Jack leaves?) and then when they find out she's got cancer, he asks around there to see how to get quick money, and then he does Slimmyslimcat: D: What age, I mean Shadizilla: O Shadizilla: UMM Shadizilla: I'd figure like..15/16/17 ? Slimmyslimcat: Let's go 17. D: Slimmyslimcat: No 15-year-old is going to be a hitman. D: Slimmyslimcat: Okay, so, slow down a little. Slimmyslimcat: Jack leaves, so he has no dad. How does Mom make her money? Shadizilla: ... umm. idk, I never thought about it.;; Shadizilla: Probably nothing real great, and something that wouldn't really have a lot of medical coverage. Probably something like a salesclerk or a manager at a shopping place or something Slimmyslimcat: Well, she's got to have a job, or she lives on welfare? We can assume that Kaj lives in not the best of neighborhoods, probably a slightly-less-than-favorable suburb as opposed to an absolute hardcore urban place D: Slimmyslimcat: Let's say she has two jobs, one as a salesclerk and one as like... some other hard-work/little-pay job Slimmyslimcat: Then she starts getting sick Shadizilla: Yeh :< Slimmyslimcat: Kaj is worried, because his dad's already left, and he couldn't bear to lose his mother, too Slimmyslimcat: So they're living on welfare while she tries to pay for medical bills with what she's saved up, but the savings are running out Shadizilla: Kaj probably gets like a fastfood job when she first starts getting sick Slimmyslimcat: Yeah, something to work at after school~ Shadizilla: :> Yeh Shadizilla: Letse see, I'll have to see how long it really would take Lukemia to kill someone Slimmyslimcat: Yeah, we'll just assume it's about a year or so, since she can't really afford good medical treatment Slimmyslimcat: How would he have the connection to the group of hitmen? Shadizilla: I have no idea. It'd be like...trying to find a drug dealer. D: UMM, lets see, there's probably some gang(s) in school or something, and someone knows someone Slimmyslimcat: That's what I'm thinking Slimmyslimcat: We can probably assume Ouichi is the resident drug dealer, recently graduated from highschool Slimmyslimcat: It would be one of those "I know a guy who knows a guy" kind of things Shadizilla: ( Well, not graduated) Shadizilla: Yeah Slimmyslimcat: (he... has a GED. It took a few tries.) Shadizilla: XD <3 Shadizilla: Kaj would probably go to him because he'd figure drugmoney is easy money, but Oui probably gears him ore towards the killerfriends, cause he wouldn't really want competition Slimmyslimcat: Why would Kaj *want* to become a hitman? Slimmyslimcat: His dad was a policeman-- from what you've told me, he *tries* to be a good kid for the most part. Slimmyslimcat: Murdering people is serious business, especially for teens like him. Why would he even be willing to consider that as an option? Shadizilla: Well, he probably really doesn't, but he wouldn't really know any other way to make a lot of money really fast. He'd probably straightup refuse when Ouichi first suggests it Slimmyslimcat: But, again, what would convince him? Slimmyslimcat: I mean D: Just being devil's advocate here, it takes a *lot* to get a kid to kill somebody, especially somebody he doesn't know, bunch of money or not. Slimmyslimcat: Especially when Kaj is so sweet to begin with. Slimmyslimcat: Why does he do it? Slimmyslimcat: ( I'm not trying to lead you away from him being an assassin-- of course I want him to be an assassin, but I just want you to think up a good reason, and I want *you* to think of it instead of me coming up with it for you ) Shadizilla: Yeah, I know, you're right. UMM;; I don't know quite yet. Something's probably got to happen to make him do it Slimmyslimcat: :< Then let's figure it out Slimmyslimcat: What if he accidentally killed someone right off? Slimmyslimcat: D: I'm kind of helping you come up with your own stuff by watching ZBrush vids, because I can't focus enough to help brainstorm aside from asking you questions to make you thin Slimmyslimcat: *think;; Slimmyslimcat: :< so what could happen to make him be willing to kill? Shadizilla: Well, if he accidently kills somsone, I doubt he'd really want to do it again? Besides, it would be real messy if it was an accident, and he could/would get caught and everything. The other hitmans though could be real convincing. I mean, he wouldn't be able to just go in there and find out about them, and then be " OH WELL nevermind, I changed my mind;; " Slimmyslimcat: Well, what's the point if he's forced into it? He'd try to run away. Slimmyslimcat: Again, murder is serious business D: It takes a *lot* to convince somebody to do it, especially if they don't want to to begin with. Shadizilla: Yeh; but I mean... idk why anyone would really murder someone else aside from being like..greedy and whatnot. And Kaj isn't really like that at first. Slimmyslimcat: D: Then come up with something. *What could convince him to do that*? Shadizilla: Well, he could just get really desperate. I mean, they're probably only getting child support from Jack, which probably isn't that much. All the money they do have is going to his mom's medical bills, so he might have to be stealing a lot of food and whatnot. He'd be in and out of school a lot, since his mom would probably really want him to stay in school, and He's either on the streets or in foster care, since his mom would be in the hospital all the time, right? And then she's dying. He'd probably be concinved that unless he gets a lot of money really soon, then his mom's probably going to die Slimmyslimcat: Which would be true Slimmyslimcat: Alright, foster care is good :D Slimmyslimcat: Desperation can drive people to do a lot of things they otherwise wouldn't Slimmyslimcat: *That* is brainstorming~ Slimmyslimcat: So he's desperate Slimmyslimcat: He isn't doing well enough in school to graduate, so he knows he can't get a good job Slimmyslimcat: He hates his foster parents, and doesn't spend much time with them; the mom is probably a bitch (one is probably a drinker, at least, and might well abuse Kaj) and he misses his real mom a whole hell of a lot, and is always scared that she's going to die Shadizilla: Yeh, cause foster familiers normally aren't ever great D: Slimmyslimcat: He probably feels bad for using money for drugs (even though he tries hard not to), which is the only way he knows how to cope; he doesn't know how else to deal with everything, but if he spends that money, then he thinks that he might be indirectly killing his mother Slimmyslimcat: Ouichi won't tell him how to sell drugs, he's desperate and scared and miserable, and so he goes to Oui to get help, and Oui sends him to Hoskins Shadizilla: D: Gosh, Oui's got to be the worst person ever to go for any sort of real helps Shadizilla: Hoskins and that gang would seem like an easy way out; he'd get a lot of money, both for his mom and himself. He wouldn't have to live in fostercare since he'd have money Shadizilla: He'd be able to do better in school sort of, if he still goes. Since he wouldn't have to deal with foster family, and he wouldn't be as worried about his mom Slimmyslimcat signed off at 5:50:32 PM. Slimmyslimcat signed on at 5:53:52 PM. Shadizilla: Slimmyslimcat: Ouichi won't tell him how to sell drugs, he's desperate and scared and miserable, and so he goes to Oui to get help, and Oui sends him to Hoskins Shadizilla: D: Gosh, Oui's got to be the worst person ever to go for any sort of real helps Shadizilla: Hoskins and that gang would seem like an easy way out; he'd get a lot of money, both for his mom and himself. He wouldn't have to live in fostercare since he'd have money Shadizilla: He'd be able to do better in school sort of, if he still goes. Since he wouldn't have to deal with foster family, and he wouldn't be as worried about his mom Slimmyslimcat: goddamnit Shadizilla: *patpat* Slimmyslimcat: yeah Shadizilla: And even after he does get a lot of money from one gig, it's be so late in the treatment, that he'd have to do it again to get more money, since she wouldn't be getting better a whole lot Slimmyslimcat: And then she dies. Shadizilla: He'd probably just disappear after that. No one would know where he was from school, his foster parents wouldn't know/care, Oui wouldn't be about to say anything Shadizilla: Hoskins/some of the boys there might try and help and take care of him, so he would end up staying there Slimmyslimcat: Yeah :< Shadizilla: :> And they wouldn't be really the best influence Slimmyslimcat: Yeah :< Shadizilla: onesec Shadizilla: Mkay :> Shadizilla: So, then he'd be like 18/19, living with the other hitman, and still learning the trade Slimmyslimcat: :< Yeah Shadizilla: Would we still go with Kaj meeting/talking to Asa every now and again on the parkbench when he's real upset? But not really knowing him? Slimmyslimcat: Yeah~ Shadizilla: :> Mkay Shadizilla: Well, Kaj probably chills with them for a year or two more, and he still kinda really sucks because he wouldn't be real comfortable with it all, but he wouldn't be dead against it anymore since he's already done it a handful of times, and he'd start liking whatever money does come in Shadizilla: And he'd get Saint as a partner eventually, and they'd buddyup :> Slimmyslimcat: Yeah :< Slimmyslimcat: Alright, this is a good basis for a story right here. Slimmyslimcat: This is where we can start. Shadizilla: Yeh :< Slimmyslimcat: :< SO. Shadizilla: :> Slimmyslimcat: WHAT IS THE POINT OF THE STORY? Slimmyslimcat: Ignoring all the crap we had before for a story, and starting with what we have so far, what do *you* want to happen in this story, overall? Shadizilla: WELL Shadizilla: It'd still sort of be just Kaj's life and all. Sort of him doing his assassinhitman stuff and getitng powerful and all that, and then him sort of realizing he's a jackass and all that/getting the power stripped from him and all. And still the GuardianAngel sort of thing with the whole God's always watching/trying to help/whatever Slimmyslimcat: :< Yeah Slimmyslimcat: So what's the moral of the story? Slimmyslimcat: ( I know this is deep stuff, I'm trying to exercise your imagination ) Shadizilla: UMMwell Shadizilla: technically 'what goes around comes around' karma sort of thing, and trying to take shortcuts to things never really works.;; Then there's sort of a 'God's always there' thing with the Asa/Guardian Angel bit Slimmyslimcat: Yeah~ Shadizilla: The veryveryvery basic timeline I still have for him is like The begining part with his mom, Saint gets killed and he tries to kill himself, after awhile he gets pretty pwerful/into the mob, he does something stupid and the mob kicks him out/trys to kill him/whatever, then he probably gets arrested in the end, I'm not sure;; Then somewhere in there he gets his scar, and then things with Asa and whatnot Slimmyslimcat: Yeah, I don't like that D: I like him eventually getting into the mob, but not that specific timeline Shadizilla: Yeah;; Slimmyslimcat: D: my feet are cold Shadizilla: Put on socks, sweets? :< Slimmyslimcat: D: I already have them on Shadizilla: D: Get a cover? Slimmyslimcat: D: for my feet? Shadizilla: Well, you can keep part of it over your feet, at least Slimmyslimcat: D: Slimmyslimcat: http://rurouni-jedi.deviantart.com/art/Kiss-Me-Goodbye-97308587 oh shit I thought it was a 3Drender Slimmyslimcat: D: I'm not gonna lie, Baltheir is *hot* Shadizilla: D: It does look like one Slimmyslimcat: D: arghargharghargh my chest hurts Slimmyslimcat: Like, just to the left of my sternum, about halfway down D: it hurts randomly Shadizilla: D: Shadizilla: WELL, what are parts that we do want to keep, or that we want to encorperate in FS still? Somehow he's involved with the mob, him getting his scar, the parkbench talks with Asa Slimmyslimcat: *incorporate Slimmyslimcat: D: Nonono, let's think of it differently. I want Kaj to have a goal, that you can build on, do explain everything that he does. Shadizilla: Alright Shadizilla: well Slimmyslimcat: I made the mistake of just writing Vin's shit straight, and Vin doesn't have any real goal for his life D: He just kindof wanders around, and I hate it. Shadizilla: Well, in general, he'd be trying to just get a decent life, where he'd have money for a nice home, and he'd have good friends/family, and he'd be able to do generally what he wanted. Slimmyslimcat: D: Yeah, that's what *I* did and it's *retarded* Slimmyslimcat: I'm *telling* you Slimmyslimcat: *Everybody* has something in their life that's a goal Slimmyslimcat: Nobody's goal is to just "live". That's *boring* and it *sucks*. Slimmyslimcat: There are longterm goals and there are short-term goals; short-term goals may be things like having enough to eat and a place ot stay and whatnot, but there have to be *long-term goals*, something he's working towards. Shadizilla: Yeah Shadizilla: Well, like. In the beginning his goal would just be to help his momma and everything. Once she dies, it'd sort of switch from that to being just get rich/powerful. Maybe he could be trying to get back at his dad, since he would be up against police and everything Slimmyslimcat: That's good~ Slimmyslimcat: Good start, at least Shadizilla: He might go after cops a lot then, or get his people to go after them

Stars sort of 'watch over' people. Sometimes they can go and try and help the people( If they want to? Do they have to? ) There's one for everyone, and if/when they come down to earth they aren't really invulnerable. The more hurt/unhealthy they are, the dimmer their star is. If they are healthy and everything then they'd have a brighter star; If they die, then their star goes out. ( There has to be something special that they all can do, though. Like what?) Kaj's mom and dad broke up a while before ( Say a year or two) the mom was diagnosed with some sort of cancer ( What kind? ). Kaj lived with his mom, and both of them sort of lost connection with the father. Kaj's mom( What's her name?) goes into the hospital after it starts to get awful bad; they weren't very good money wise, so Kaj gets a part-time job and stays in high school ( At his mom's request.) Kaj isn't doing real good in school ( Because he wants to work more to get more money to pay med bills. Besides, he's stressed about his mom.) He's also in a foster home,  ( His mom must have gone in when he first begins high school, and she's in there for a couple years, I'm not sure. Look for how long it takes to diagnose and fix lukemia) Kaj's and his foster family(s) don't really get along that well, so Kaj mostly hangs out with some kids from school (Oui and some of his people) and then at the hospital with his mom. Kaj is complaining a bunch to Oui that he needs money ( He's probably trying to sell drugs with him, but Oui doesn't really want competition?) so he introduces him to the hit man group ( Because wtf Oui knows people like that for some reason. ) and tries to get him into all of that. Kaj is stressing over his mom/money/his foster family/school/he probably got fired from his job/maybe he's trying to contact his dad. He probably sleeps on it for a few days before going through with a job. He probably gets really sick from it, because he just killed a guy and all, and he probably blundered a good bit so it made it look worse. He says he doesn't want to do it anymore, but once he gets paid, that kind of outweighs that he killed a guy. ( It was probably in cash, and it was a couple thousand maybe? Look up how much he'd probably get( Where can you even find that info? ;;; ) He's a greedy little ho. )